John Key: the will of the public
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Prime Minister John Key, in an interview with North & South magazine (not online):
Key, who somehow found his way into the royal diary for chats with the Queen and Prince Charles in the week of Prince William's wedding, is a confirmed monarchist: "I've no interest in New Zealand becoming a republic. One day it might become one if that's the will of the public, but I can't see any reason we'd want to move away from the current system."
As we've said before, this position isn't surprising. The office of Prime Minister has the most to lose from a New Zealand republic - especially by not being able to appoint whoever he or she wants as Governor-General, and losing the ability to sack them. No Prime Minister (well, Bolger and Clark excepted) would accept that as a reason to change. It seems the Prime Minister would rather follow public opinion than lead it.
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I personally don't see it as a case of "following" or "leading" public opinion. It is not as though the entire population is heading in the same direction with some striking out ahead of others. While there is a general tacit agreement that eventually New Zealand will become a republic, there are real political interests at stake, and the fact is that the interests of the most privileged sectors of New Zealand society remain firmly attached to the British monarchy.
John Key is not merely derelictory over the matter of the republic. He is hostile, because the people he identifies with, the people in whose company he has spent his entire working life, do not want to loosen any of their connections with a global political and economic system in which the British monarchy is now a relatively small but still very important part.
If that's the case, then how do you explain the support for a New Zealand republic from businessmen such as Bob Jones?
Bob Jones has a very different background, and a very different character to John Key. Key is a politically cautious company man, Jones a rugged individualist and iconoclast. John Key owes his wealth to the global banking system based in London and New York. Jones built his own property empire in New Zealand, and arguably owes his wealth to the fact that he has been able to outwit the bankers. If you were looking to draw a comparison between the republican and monarchist mindset you could not have chosen a better pair than John Key and Bob Jones.
The global system which New Zealand was part of has certainly changed, but it has not changed fundamentally. New Zealand is still dependent upon selling primary produce to overseas markets, and still depends on borrowing capital in foreign markets.
Britain is no longer the major market or source of funds, but then the UK has been incorporated into a much wider system which does provide New Zealand those markets and that capital, and the British monarchy has been enlisted to serve the interests of this wider global system.
While New Zealanders continue to accept the monarchy, they are unlikely to question New Zealand's economic and political dependenccy, which is one reason why global financial interests might feel comfortable with the present constitution. New Zealand subject to the British Crown is unlikely to go down a similar route to North Korea, Libya or Cuba, or, for that matter, Switzerland or Finland.
If anyone got to really press the point with John Key, I expect that is pretty much what he would say. The monarchy provides a level of assurance for the status quo. The question is whether the status quo is sustainable.
Personally, I believe it is not. Switching attention from London to Beijing won't help in the long run either. The only viable solution is independence and self-reliance, signalled by the establishment of a republic.
I think what's missing with your analysis Geoff is a causal link between New Zealand's dependence on foreign capital and Key's support for the monarchy. Considering his government is actually in better debt position that all of his predecessors' since 1972 (in terms of government debt to GDP) he's not exactly beholden to foreign lenders as Bolger or Clark were (that said, total debt to GDP is much higher due to private debt sky-rocketing).
I am not a determinist, and I do not argue that because one has worked for Merrill-Lynch, or because one has a British father, or because of any other particular circumstance, one will be a monarchist or a republican. I don't postulate causal links of any kind. But when all the circumstances come together, things start to make sense, and Key's monarchism does make sense.
It is not just a matter of what he thinks will win votes. I tend to think that republicanism would actually win a lot of votes in New Zealand. I think Key actually believes that the monarchy is important to maintaining the wider status quo, and keeping the confidence of New Zealand's bankers. Which may well be the case.
The link between New Zealand's political dependence upon foreign powers, and its economic dependence upon foreign capital, is a subject in itself. I won't try to argue that one here and now, but would urge people to think about it.
When I say that "the British monarchy has been enlisted to serve the interests of this wider global system" I am referring to such things as the enthusiasm shown for British royalty in the US, and the willingness of the British royals to endorse the US war in Afghanistan. The royals now play a role in a system which stretches beyond Britain and its dominions, and they play an integral part of the "special relationship" with the US.
Neither am I carrying the flag for Bob Jones (Sir Robert I believe).
Key and Jones are very different personalities and very different
politically (remember the New Zealand Party?). It makes more sense for
Jones to be republican than Key. Mind you, Jones did not hesitate to
accept a knighthood. He is rather the opportunist, and I suspect would be proud to be recognised as such.
People who cherish democracy for themselves do not necessarily desire it for others. At the end of the war against Japan, the United States made a deliberate decision to retain the Japanese monarchy rather than place the Emperor on trial for war crimes. In the years since, the US, and the western democracies in general, have elected to actively support the continuation of absolute monarchical rule in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco, Nepal and Thailand, to name but a few. The same considerations which apply in the case of these countries also apply to New Zealand. The fact is that all New Zealand's "traditional allies" - the state authorities in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and the United States of America - are comfortable, and indeed anxious, that New Zealand should remain under the British crown.
The monarchy is a useful adjunct to the imperial system. It provides a degree of assurance that New Zealand will not pursue its own national interest, which could detract from the economic, political and military advantages which the traditional allies are able to extract under the present arrangements. New Zealand republicans should not be blind to the fact that, whatever they may say publicly, certain foreign powers have a vested interest in the preservation of the monarchy and will use their influence to maintain the status quo.
I think this highlights the differences in our thinking Geoff. I don't see the monarchy as having any real political influence over New Zealand, and what little symbolic influence it has is being eroded into nothing more than a simple cost:benefit calculation based on tourism.
The monarchy is "irrelevant to New Zealand" if by that we mean that it has no positive part to play in the promotion of New Zealand's national interest, but from an objective point of view the monarchy remains central to New Zealand's constitutional arrangements, and is an important influence upon public attitudes to a whole range of issues. It's political influence may work through symbolism and the subconscious, but it is none the less real. To me the republican movement is all about bringing these subconscious issues out in to the light of day, where we can examine exactly what effect the monarchy is having upon our national psyche, and how a republic might be different.
I guess what you are saying is that for most people attachment to the British monarchy is emotional rather than rational, and that politicians like John Key cater to those emotions. There is obviously some truth in that, but if it was the whole story then the republican movement might have progressed faster than it has.
The New Zealand military, for example, have a common bond (including formal cooperative agreements) with the military forces of Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom which is reinforced by their common allegiance to the British crown. At the other end of the scale, the Mana Party notable, lawyer Annette Sykes, has publicly denounced republicanism as "nonsense", presumably because she sees republicanism as a threat to the "treaty partnership" arrangement between the British crown and New Zealand Maori.
The proponents of monarchy are not necessarily unthinking. In many cases their emotional attachment to the monarchy is rooted in their perception of their own self-interest. If we, as republicans, are to make significant headway we may have to confront the sectional interests, as well as the emotions, underlying this debate. There are, after all, real interests and real emotions involved on both sides of the debate, even if we accept the argument that John Key is simply playing the numbers game, and doesn't really care whether New Zealand remains bound to British crown, or becomes an independent republic.
In terms of foreign interests, the US could live with a Republic of Aotearoa, provided it did not go too far down the track the anti-nuclear track that so annoyed France, the United States, and indeed Britain, and particularly if it continued to send troops to assist in US wars, along with other small republics such as Lithuania and El Salvador. However the US is very comfortable with the present arrangement where military and diplomatic support for the US is very much a family affair for the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, presided over by a monarchy which implicitly supports that military alliance. The question for the US would be whether New Zealand as an independent republic might break ranks and go down the "anti-nuclear alliance" path of the nineteen eighties. I can't answer that question, and I suspect that the US State Dept doesn't have an answer either. The present arrangement works for them. They might therefore decide to stick with it.
That won't make for any change to our objectives for the republic. Just something we need to keep an eye on.